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jlegelis
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Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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November 24, 2009, 05:24:28 PM »
Hi all - Just wondering about the popular non-Michelin choices for an 18" DE tire for my '01 986S? Due to work and family, I'm only doing 3-4 DE days a season, and would like a more economical tire solution, since my current set of Pilot Sport Cups have aged and hardened over the past five under-used years. Any pointers?
- John
'01 986S
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Lightning
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Lightning Motorsports
Re: Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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November 24, 2009, 08:56:02 PM »
Assuming you're staying with R-compound tires, there are several choices. If you want to use long
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-wearing tires (100 treadwear) that could be driven to the track, there's the Nitto NT-01, the Toyo R888, and you might possibly still be able to get the Toyo RA-1, which seems to be the tire of the three that takes the most number of heat cycles before going off. (But the RA-1 squirms alot when at full tread). These are all way less expensive than the Michelin PSC.
If you're trailering your car or your tires, there's the BFG R1, the Hoosier R6/A6, and the Kumho V710 (all slicks, all below 50 treadwear), although the last two don't come in 265/35-18 (neither does the Nitto or the Toyo RA-1; you'd have to go up to 275 or 285 in the case of Kumho for the rear). Probably still cheaper than Michelins.
The way to really save money is to run 17" wheels and tires. Generally $200 to $600 (gasp) less expensive per set of tires, depending upon the brand and the model.
Let the opining begin!
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Mike Foxtrot
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Re: Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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December 18, 2009, 03:28:58 PM »
Since you are doing DE's and not autocrossing or time trials, you probably don't need the latest ultimate super sticky tire. You want a tire that is predictable and gives good feedback. Check on Tire Rack for performance tires around the 200 UTOG rating and go with the lowest aspect ratio number on a proven brand. Go with 17 inch rims if they fit. Also, a good track alignment will make the tires last longer. If you are not competing head to head, you should be able to have lots of fun and stay out longer with more economical tires.
Mike Foxtrot
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Gustavo Andrade
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Re: Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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February 01, 2010, 07:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Mike Foxtrot on December 18, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Check on Tire Rack for performance tires around the 200 UTOG rating and go with the lowest aspect ratio number on a proven brand.
Can you expand on that?
Are you suggesting a street tire with lower profile (sidewall), if so can you give an example?
Thanks,
Gus
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savowood
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3.4, PSS9, R888, Powerslot
Re: Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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February 03, 2010, 11:49:28 AM »
The Michelin PS2 isn't all that bad. It's very predictable, although not as sticky. I'm pretty sure it's a 200 or maybe 220. I like them for a fun street tire and occasional track tire. I prefer to use a full slick, but unfortunately I was born good looking instead of rich.
-Michael
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Cajundaddy
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98 BSX #129
Re: Switching from Michelin Pilot Sport Cups to .... ?
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February 05, 2010, 08:39:35 PM »
Suggestion: Find a set of 17" takeoff wheels and mount either Nitto NT-01 or Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs. The cost for wheels and tires will probably be less than a set of 18" Sport Cups and future tires will be about 1/2 price without sacrificing much if any performance. Both tires perform well on the track.
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